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Re: HTTPS-RR and ECH
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From: Michael via curl-library <curl-library_at_lists.haxx.se>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 15:13:19 +0500
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> We want ECH enabled to push online privacy forward.
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> Their proposal assumes that relocating network visibility translates to
eliminating it. In reality, Encrypted Client Hello (ECH) merely shifts
domain-name exposure from a local internet service provider to a
centralized CDN edge—such as Cloudflare.
From a macro-observability standpoint, exchanging a regional low-fidelity
observer for a planetary-scale data hub is a net loss in privacy. A single
entity operating at that scale reconstructs traffic patterns across
millions of nodes, creating a far more comprehensive telemetry map than any
terrestrial ISP could ever dream of building. Calling it "privacy forward"
ignores the physics of network centralized surveillance.
Beside, i do not agree with c-ares project, so will see imploding it only
as a net negative event.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 15:13:19 +0500
>
>
>
> We want ECH enabled to push online privacy forward.
>
> Their proposal assumes that relocating network visibility translates to
eliminating it. In reality, Encrypted Client Hello (ECH) merely shifts
domain-name exposure from a local internet service provider to a
centralized CDN edge—such as Cloudflare.
From a macro-observability standpoint, exchanging a regional low-fidelity
observer for a planetary-scale data hub is a net loss in privacy. A single
entity operating at that scale reconstructs traffic patterns across
millions of nodes, creating a far more comprehensive telemetry map than any
terrestrial ISP could ever dream of building. Calling it "privacy forward"
ignores the physics of network centralized surveillance.
Beside, i do not agree with c-ares project, so will see imploding it only
as a net negative event.
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