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Re: WAP?

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:12:25 -0700 (PDT)

I use Curl for WAP already - most WAP gateways are already
translating WTP (or WTLS) to HTTP (or HTTPS ). And
Curl does a great job on the translated content.
I am wondering why you would want to circumvent a gateway which
in addition to doing the translation also provides valuable
device and location information ?

There are some good reasons for the need for WTP which I
cannot go into here - it is optimized for delivery over
low bandwidth connections.
Look at for more information.

Before there was WAP there was and is CDPD in the US based on
older analog networks. These phones would get a _real_ IP
address all the way to the phone - I can ping my CDPD phone.

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:01:09 +0200 (MET DST), wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Georg Horn wrote:
> > Yes, it's made for cellular phones, but the phone doesn't directly talk
> > http to a web server, but talks wap to a wap server (or gateway) which
> > either produces the content itself or translates the request into http,
> > sends it to a web server, and gives the answer back to the phone.
> Right. So you want to be able to talk WTP (Wireless Transaction Protocol)
> with a WAP server/gateway to get its contents?
> Well I guess it is a fair idea. It seems it can be used ontop of IP. It
> however seems like quite a bit of work. You know of any open source
> initiative to talk this protocol?
> > I don't know why the hell they invented just another protocol... ;-)
> I'll tell you why: they're the telecom industry. They always invent
> again. And they want a new protocol to better control the data and allow
> operators to charge for services. WAP is a lot about charging customers.
> I'd vote for plain IP all the way to my phone any day.
> > Well, at least the data between gateway and phone is transfered as a
> > binary, compacter bytecode than the verbose http-protocol.
> Yes.
> --
> Daniel Stenberg - - +46-705-44 31 77
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