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Re: Above and beyond 32 protocols
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From: mohammad.ghasemi.2549 via curl-library <curl-library_at_lists.haxx.se>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:05:25 +0000
One important thing to note is how much it actually reduces the environmental footprint supposing it is done. And how much is that in percentage compared to other environmental footprint we have. Is it worth the effort?
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On Tuesday, September 28th, 2021 at 11:34 PM, Olivier Delhomme via curl-library <curl-library_at_lists.haxx.se> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 01:01:38PM +0200, Daniel Stenberg via curl-library wrote:
>
> > Hi team.
>
> Hi Daniel and readers of curl mailing list,
>
> This is not a troll e-mail but a benevolent one. Your initial
>
> message is related to some questions I am currently asking
>
> myself about our responsibility (as computer scientists) in
>
> climat change and what we might do in our field to help.
>
> > We added support for GOPHERS in late 2020. There's a new PR proposing
> >
> > support for the ManageSieve protocol. We had a PR previously suggesting
> >
> > Gemini support and the other day ICAP was brought up in a discussion.
> >
> > WebSockets is another common one discussed.
> >
> > I don't think it's crazy to imagine that we might add support for more
> >
> > protocols going forward. Sooner or later.
>
> I'd love to know what are your thoughts about GreenIt / low tech
>
> and the paths that we may need to walk through to reduce our
>
> environmental footprint [1] such as:
>
> - limit or (better) reduce features in programs,
> - maintain released versions for a much more longer time (such
>
> as 7 years [2]).
>
> Is it conceivable to make choices of which protocols may stay
>
> or not in curl and keep only 32 of them ?
>
> This could sound a bit overkill but don't we live in a finite
>
> world ?
>
> [1] Environmental footprint of the digital world:
>
> https://www.greenit.fr/environmental-footprint-of-the-digital-world/
>
> [2] Germany for 7 years of security updates for smartphones:
>
> https://techbriefly.com/2021/09/06/germany-negotiates-with-eu-for-7-years-of-updates-to-smartphones/
>
> https://www.heise.de/news/Bundesregierung-Smartphones-sollen-sieben-Jahre-lang-Updates-erhalten-6179995.html
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, best regards,
>
> Olivier.
>
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:05:25 +0000
One important thing to note is how much it actually reduces the environmental footprint supposing it is done. And how much is that in percentage compared to other environmental footprint we have. Is it worth the effort?
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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Tuesday, September 28th, 2021 at 11:34 PM, Olivier Delhomme via curl-library <curl-library_at_lists.haxx.se> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 01:01:38PM +0200, Daniel Stenberg via curl-library wrote:
>
> > Hi team.
>
> Hi Daniel and readers of curl mailing list,
>
> This is not a troll e-mail but a benevolent one. Your initial
>
> message is related to some questions I am currently asking
>
> myself about our responsibility (as computer scientists) in
>
> climat change and what we might do in our field to help.
>
> > We added support for GOPHERS in late 2020. There's a new PR proposing
> >
> > support for the ManageSieve protocol. We had a PR previously suggesting
> >
> > Gemini support and the other day ICAP was brought up in a discussion.
> >
> > WebSockets is another common one discussed.
> >
> > I don't think it's crazy to imagine that we might add support for more
> >
> > protocols going forward. Sooner or later.
>
> I'd love to know what are your thoughts about GreenIt / low tech
>
> and the paths that we may need to walk through to reduce our
>
> environmental footprint [1] such as:
>
> - limit or (better) reduce features in programs,
> - maintain released versions for a much more longer time (such
>
> as 7 years [2]).
>
> Is it conceivable to make choices of which protocols may stay
>
> or not in curl and keep only 32 of them ?
>
> This could sound a bit overkill but don't we live in a finite
>
> world ?
>
> [1] Environmental footprint of the digital world:
>
> https://www.greenit.fr/environmental-footprint-of-the-digital-world/
>
> [2] Germany for 7 years of security updates for smartphones:
>
> https://techbriefly.com/2021/09/06/germany-negotiates-with-eu-for-7-years-of-updates-to-smartphones/
>
> https://www.heise.de/news/Bundesregierung-Smartphones-sollen-sieben-Jahre-lang-Updates-erhalten-6179995.html
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, best regards,
>
> Olivier.
>
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>
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